Ever since Anet nerfed farming I have hated them. I hope this pisses people off as much as that update did. It's good that they are giving all the nubs a chance to get greens without spending any time to get them, since we can't farm them anyways! Why don't we all just quit gw and play Final Fantasy 12? We'd have much less of a headache and wouldn't have idiots like anet always screwing everything up.
Dear any Anet rep that reads this,
Gaile STOP THIS NOW BEFORE IT RUINS THE BRAND NEW NIGHTFALL!!!
How is it ruining anything?
I suppose you mean it ruins it for farmers, why should anyone care about farmers - now regular people have a good chance of getting a green, that seems like a good idea to me.
Stupid idea just anets way of screwing over experinced players and handing everything to the newbs.
I must be a newb then, I think its great, it'll let me get some weapons/offhands which are REALLY hard to get normally, or at least, I'm hoping it will.
Btw, I thought greens were put in the game to help the casual player? The non-casual player normally opts for the skin they like + the mods they like rather than a green which can't be changed, right?
Doesn't bother me any. I've been picking up green drops like candy, and that, in the course of general play. Got two new ones tonight in about two and half hours of play... Some of my chars are now spoiled for choice. My mesemer and my monk now have multiple green weps and/or focii. My Necro has more greens now than he has wep slots available.
Go ahead, drop more greens on me, see if it makes me happier... It won't. Probably won't make me much richer, either, as prices plummet.
*shrug again*
Whatever blows ANet's skirts up, I 'spose.
On one hand they nerf farming and on the other they increase green drops to encourage it... this doesn't make sense.
What happened at the last green weekend - the place was overrun with 3/4/5 man farming teams?
Anet you need to make up your mind - is farming good or bad?
Where does farming become "bad" farming?
Is solo farming bad? Is 2 man farming bad? Is 3 man farming ok? WTF?
Of course the only difference this time around is that the 3/4 man farming teams will of course be a single player with heroes.
On one hand they nerf farming and on the other they increase green drops to encourage it... this doesn't make sense.
What happened at the last green weekend - the place was overrun with 3/4/5 man farming teams?
Anet you need to make up your mind - is farming good or bad?
Where does farming become "bad" farming?
Is solo farming bad? Is 2 man farming bad? Is 3 man farming ok? WTF?
Of course the only difference this time around is that the 3/4 man farming teams will of course be a single player with heroes.
Exactly what I've been saying, every single word true. How did Anet keep our attention till NF came out. By giving us "Farming" special weekends. The encouraged us to farm our hearts out. Then 2 days before NF they nerf all farming. I really don't understand their business concept on that but hey. I personally know at least 9 people that didn't buy the game because of that. And have been telling more not too, and they havent.
But now Anet finds itself either losing sales or watching people leave. SO what do they do to try and stop people from leaving, try and tempt us with green farming. All I have to say Anet is "Too little, too late" Fix the motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing real problem, and quit wasting your time, our time with a sugar coating. Thats only a temp. fix and what then? Are you not going to address the real problems and instead, try and keep us hooked with triple/double weekends for the next 5 months?
Oh and Btw - you need to invest in a person that actually talks with the community about real problems. Not one that skirts the issues because they are not "Happy" topics.
Quite alot of experienced players don't care about greens for money, and wield max rares instead
I refuse to use them myself but they are a great source of income. Usally a few hundred plat a day. This jsut makes it so all the people without the abilty to farm them get them for next to nothing. I might aswell go back to running people through mission.
OMG WTF are you thinking?!?!?!?!. OK that part is out of the way now to why this is a BAD THING.
There is a little thing called enconomy and you are messing with it big time. Nightfall hasnt even been out a full month and you are allready skrewing the pony with this weekend event.
Greens should be able to mature with some time ( not less then 3 weeks) so that the vaule of them will stablize. Once they have been around for a while people will except a certin price range for them.
Now if you do this at this point in nightfall's life, you can ruin the NF greens forever. We all know once green rate increases price goes down. After this weekend so early in the game, the green prices may never recover. So like greens will be worth like 10-20k a piece and will mess up with the green farmers that use that for their source of making money.
PLEASE dont do this now. Wait like a month or two so more people will get further in the game so they will have a chance to get those greens they want/need.
Gaile STOP THIS NOW BEFORE IT RUINS THE BRAND NEW NIGHTFALL!!!
Since they have already done that to the other chapters, and they seem to not want normal players to be able to get much money....at least I might be able to get some greens this weekend for my heros! Keep doing multiple/double/something-similar-to-the-other-two drop weekend things ArenaNet! I'm gonna get something one of these times!
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Most greens are nearly worthless already anyways because of the flag trick that most people do it with ever since Nightfall was released.
This just makes it easier for me to get the one I want ^^
O_O What flag thing? I wana know it before this weekend if it will make farming greens easier!
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3 times 0 is zero . .
You spend too much time on the forums :P
Wow, it's not 3 times zero. It's 3 to the zero-ith power, which is 1. Just don't ask me why. I don't understand math, I just memorize it... >.<
[QUOTE=Thallandor]There has been some reports of observations that drop rates have been decreased but this could be likely due to more players playing with Heros+Hench, hence resulting in an illusion of lesser assigned drops, with this 3x weekend, it serves to help players who might like to obtain such of a green item to do so.QUOTE]
No. For me, when I go with heros in any continent, not just Elona, I get about half the drops as when I go with either henchies (no heros, just me and henchies) or players (no heros, just me and other players). Oh, and I've been counting how many items I have before I sell them to the merchant/put them in my storage.I generally get at least double without the heros. Now maybe I'm just really, really, really unlucky when I'm with heros, but I doubt it. Oh well. At least heros made it a lot easier to play when you are just questing or don't feel like playing with other people or things like that.
Since the drop rate for anything apart from tyiran greens is as close to ZERO as makes no difference it would'nt make a different if they had 50 times as likely weekend you still would'nt get any.
oh and theres a difference between 3 to the power of 0 and 3 times 0. Anything times 0 IS ZERO.
Wrong. My guild and I and my others noticed an increase in drops. Many people got several more greens than normal.
Well I don't mind about this event, but we find out some things.
People move to slow trying to enjoy so get shafted.
People who don't have time to play the 30 hours it takes to get to the endgame get shafted, but some of them guys are slow too.
Then people who don't care like me and and some others who prefer rares to greens.
People who use greens to make money think they are getting shafted when they aren't because 5 greens for 20k is 100k and that's still quite a bit.
Then there are the people who like this and want the greens (eww greens whether I use them or not i'd use a non perfect gold over greens anytime) for hero's or themselves or are just sucking up to Anet.
People who like greens kind of annoy me but I'm biased. I use greens but I don't like them one bit, I just haven't found anything better and if I do, I will use it over a green any day. Then again casual players annoy me too cause they seem to have an attitude towards people who "have no lives." But that's a different story for a different time, fact is...
Greens are the easy way out, Anet listens to people who don't like high prices, and they don't listen to people who like to farm because farming is bad apparently because it makes money to afford the armors that they make cost so much.
A triple drop weekend so soon ? Sorry anet but that just smacks of desperation. Maybe people are getting bored of single playing Nightfall already......
Nice. Let's all just instantly assume the worst and not even entertain the notion that this is A-Net's way of both continuing with their weekend-events (Feelings of which are mixxed. Everytime one comes along everyone yells and screams that it's just a placation, others love the fact that the devs actually have things like this, and don't leave GW as stagnant as other games.), and giving everyone a greater chance at equiping their Heroes with nice weapons (Which, again, is something everyone's complaining about recently.)
But no, I'm sure it's just a desperation move on A-Net's part. Doing things to keep your fans happy is always a desperation move.
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People who like greens kind of annoy me but I'm biased.
Then again casual players annoy me too cause they seem to have an attitude towards people who "have no lives." But that's a different story for a different time, fact is...
Greens are the easy way out, Anet listens to people who don't like high prices, and they don't listen to people who like to farm because farming is bad apparently because it makes money to afford the armors that they make cost so much.
Interesting and honest post with much openings to flame about, but i wont. We all merely share different perspectives on greens and causal players thats all and we dont need to be friends and share the same opinon all the time.
But on the last point i can agree on. At some point, Anet seemed to have changed it stance on "we support legitimate farmers" to the current unsaid anti farming stance which maybe due to several reasons.
-Some in the community complaining about the presence of bot/swearshop farmers farming mino and trolls and asking Anet to act on it.
-Some in the community complaining about high prices of items cause the rich players set the market for those items they are willing to pay for at prices out of reach of most other players.
-Some in the community gloating about how there are gonna all make Dervish/Monks before NF release and single-handedly solo UW/FOW/Elite missions and singlehandedly tank the economy from all their stacks of ectos and what not.
And after all that, did we just expect Anet to sit there quietly and let a small population of the community screw the entire game over for the rest? Some called for actions but dont specify how and consider the consequences. Dont cry when it comes back to smack you in the face.
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Then there are the people who like this and want the greens (eww greens whether I use them or not i'd use a non perfect gold over greens anytime) for hero's or themselves or are just sucking up to Anet.
Are you joking? I honestly can't tell. The colour of the item text actually matters to you that much? And people who like greens are sucking up to ANET? Again, I ask...you are joking right?
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People who like greens kind of annoy me but I'm biased.
Huh?! Why?
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Then again casual players annoy me too cause they seem to have an attitude towards people who "have no lives." But that's a different story for a different time, fact is...
?!?!?!?!!!!!??!
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Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Greens are the easy way out, Anet listens to people who don't like high prices, and they don't listen to people who like to farm because farming is bad apparently because it makes money to afford the armors that they make cost so much.